If classical liberals support both political liberalism and economic liberalism..?
Where does the Conservatism movement fit in?
Obviously the left liberals (AKA modern liberals) are different in regards to economic liberalism. Meaning they support more socialized form of economics.
However the right liberals (aka conservatives) have the same view on economic liberalism but not political liberalism. IE gay rights, and privacy rights.
Also if there are any out there who support classical liberalism where does your allegiance lie?
What? I’m not talking about presidential candidates..
If Jefferson was a classic liberal then your supposition is wrong, I am a Jefferson / Madison Liberal, economic liberalism is not at all Jefferson style, modern economic liberalism is more Hamilton rule by elite system.
TAX ONLY THE RICH
"We are all the more reconciled to the tax on importations, because it falls exclusively on the rich, and with the equal partition of intestate’s estates, constitutes the best agrarian law.. Our revenues once liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., and the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spare a cent from his earnings."
–Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1811. ME 13:41
http://www.constitution.org/tj/jeff13.tx…
PROGRESSIVE TAXES
"The property of this country is absolutely concentred in a very few hands, having revenues of from half a million of guineas a year downwards… I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable. But the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labor and live on."
–Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, October 28,1785. ME 19:17, Papers 8:682
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/libra…
If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing power of money should be taken from the bankers and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs. I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies.
We are completely saddled and bridled, and the bank is so firmly mounted on us that we must go where they ill guide.
The dominion which the banking institutions have obtained over the minds of our citizens…must be broken, or it will break us. Thomas Jefferson
(Letter to James Monroe, January 1, 1815
Maybe I don’t fully understand what you’re trying to convey but ‘conservativism’ doesn’t fit into it except for economically, which you’ve already noted.
I suppose I fall into the classical liberalism label. I’m a registered Republican that leans towards minarchism. The only reasons I’m not registered Libertarian is that I don’t agree with some of the party stances and I changed to vote for RP. I’ll be switching back to Independent soon.
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If Jefferson was a classic liberal then your supposition is wrong, I am a Jefferson / Madison Liberal, economic liberalism is not at all Jefferson style, modern economic liberalism is more Hamilton rule by elite system.
TAX ONLY THE RICH
"We are all the more reconciled to the tax on importations, because it falls exclusively on the rich, and with the equal partition of intestate’s estates, constitutes the best agrarian law.. Our revenues once liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., and the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spare a cent from his earnings."
–Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1811. ME 13:41
http://www.constitution.org/tj/jeff13.tx...
PROGRESSIVE TAXES
"The property of this country is absolutely concentred in a very few hands, having revenues of from half a million of guineas a year downwards… I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable. But the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labor and live on."
–Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, October 28,1785. ME 19:17, Papers 8:682
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/libra...
If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing power of money should be taken from the bankers and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs. I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies.
We are completely saddled and bridled, and the bank is so firmly mounted on us that we must go where they ill guide.
The dominion which the banking institutions have obtained over the minds of our citizens…must be broken, or it will break us. Thomas Jefferson
(Letter to James Monroe, January 1, 1815
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Adam Smith was a liberal in the classial sense. During his time government involved themselves in the economy at the guidance of the oligarats (sp?) . Adam Smith advocated less government involvement to reduce the power of oligarchy. Even Marx approved of this.
The modern liberals come in being with the Industrial Revolution. The marketplace was not solving problems presented in the book "The Jungle": bad working and pay conditions. Government were required to be more forceful in retricting what a business could do and not do. Liberals did not want to remove capitallism but they wanted to curb the excess.
You should belong to the Democratic party.
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